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	<title>Comments on: Newspapers as ice cream &#8211; or how to torture a metaphor</title>
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		<title>By: dkiesow</title>
		<link>http://kiesow.net/2008/11/20/newspapers-as-ice-cream-or-how-to-torture-a-metaphor/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>dkiesow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - just goes to show there are no new ideas - just old lessons we have not yet learned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; just goes to show there are no new ideas &#8211; just old lessons we have not yet learned.</p>
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		<title>By: dkiesow</title>
		<link>http://kiesow.net/2008/11/20/newspapers-as-ice-cream-or-how-to-torture-a-metaphor/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>dkiesow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - just goes to show there are no new ideas - just old lessons we have not yet learned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; just goes to show there are no new ideas &#8211; just old lessons we have not yet learned.</p>
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		<title>By: yelvington</title>
		<link>http://kiesow.net/2008/11/20/newspapers-as-ice-cream-or-how-to-torture-a-metaphor/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>yelvington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milk. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Years ago, when I was still at the Star Tribune, we had a company meeting at which senior managers like publisher Joel Kramer (now the guy behind &lt;a href=&quot;http://Minnpost.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Minnpost.com&lt;/a&gt;) and editor Tim McGuire (now at Arizona State) performed in a play. I think Chris Mahai (now &lt;a href=&quot;http://Aveus.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Aveus.com&lt;/a&gt;) wrote it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The play was called &quot;Milk.&quot; And the theme was pretty much as you describe.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Milk comes in exactly one flavor: milk-flavored. Until somebody gets smart about market segmentation and discovers a market for chocolate milk. Or strawberry milk. Or milk delivered as ... ice cream.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The marketing problem we face isn&#039;t really about milk or ice cream or the Internet or print. It&#039;s about understanding people and their needs and their wants and their interests.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And newspapers suck at that. There&#039;s no product-development process. No marketing department (neither ad sales nor promotion constitute marketing). No R&amp;D. This has been long recognized, and long bemoaned. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So what are we doing about it these days? Cutting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milk. </p>
<p>Years ago, when I was still at the Star Tribune, we had a company meeting at which senior managers like publisher Joel Kramer (now the guy behind <a href="http://Minnpost.com" rel="nofollow">Minnpost.com</a>) and editor Tim McGuire (now at Arizona State) performed in a play. I think Chris Mahai (now <a href="http://Aveus.com" rel="nofollow">Aveus.com</a>) wrote it. </p>
<p>The play was called &#8220;Milk.&#8221; And the theme was pretty much as you describe.</p>
<p>Milk comes in exactly one flavor: milk-flavored. Until somebody gets smart about market segmentation and discovers a market for chocolate milk. Or strawberry milk. Or milk delivered as &#8230; ice cream.</p>
<p>The marketing problem we face isn&#39;t really about milk or ice cream or the Internet or print. It&#39;s about understanding people and their needs and their wants and their interests.</p>
<p>And newspapers suck at that. There&#39;s no product-development process. No marketing department (neither ad sales nor promotion constitute marketing). No R&#038;D. This has been long recognized, and long bemoaned. </p>
<p>So what are we doing about it these days? Cutting.</p>
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		<title>By: yelvington</title>
		<link>http://kiesow.net/2008/11/20/newspapers-as-ice-cream-or-how-to-torture-a-metaphor/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>yelvington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milk. Years ago, when I was still at the Star Tribune, we had a company meeting at which senior managers like publisher Joel Kramer (now the guy behind &lt;a href=&quot;http://Minnpost.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Minnpost.com&lt;/a&gt;) and editor Tim McGuire (now at Arizona State) performed in a play. I think Chris Mahai (now &lt;a href=&quot;http://Aveus.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Aveus.com&lt;/a&gt;) wrote it. The play was called &quot;Milk.&quot; And the theme was pretty much as you describe.Milk comes in exactly one flavor: milk-flavored. Until somebody gets smart about market segmentation and discovers a market for chocolate milk. Or strawberry milk. Or milk delivered as ... ice cream.The marketing problem we face isn&#039;t really about milk or ice cream or the Internet or print. It&#039;s about understanding people and their needs and their wants and their interests.And newspapers suck at that. There&#039;s no product-development process. No marketing department (neither ad sales nor promotion constitute marketing). No R&amp;D. This has been long recognized, and long bemoaned. So what are we doing about it these days? Cutting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milk. Years ago, when I was still at the Star Tribune, we had a company meeting at which senior managers like publisher Joel Kramer (now the guy behind <a href="http://Minnpost.com" rel="nofollow">Minnpost.com</a>) and editor Tim McGuire (now at Arizona State) performed in a play. I think Chris Mahai (now <a href="http://Aveus.com" rel="nofollow">Aveus.com</a>) wrote it. The play was called &#8220;Milk.&#8221; And the theme was pretty much as you describe.Milk comes in exactly one flavor: milk-flavored. Until somebody gets smart about market segmentation and discovers a market for chocolate milk. Or strawberry milk. Or milk delivered as &#8230; ice cream.The marketing problem we face isn&#039;t really about milk or ice cream or the Internet or print. It&#039;s about understanding people and their needs and their wants and their interests.And newspapers suck at that. There&#039;s no product-development process. No marketing department (neither ad sales nor promotion constitute marketing). No R&amp;D. This has been long recognized, and long bemoaned. So what are we doing about it these days? Cutting.</p>
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